Mike Wise interview

Mike Wise in Tamshiyacu, Peru

One of the very first interviews I did for the blog was in 2015. It was with the late Don “Z-man” Zilliox, who was a mainstay in the hobby for many years. Don specialized in keeping the beautiful Apistogramma species of cichlids from South America (SA), or apistos as they’re colloquially referred to. 

Since that 2015 interview with Don, I have interviewed two other experts on apistos, a hobbyist (Dr. Alan DeAngelo) and a scientist (Dr. Wolfgang Staeck). Because I don’t keep CA/SA cichlids, I have to rely mostly on interviews to bring you solid information about these new world fish. 

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New interviews on the horizon!

Stay tuned for some new interviews. I have two currently in the formatting stage. One is a re-visit of a previous interviewee. The other is brand new. 

If you’re an Apistogramma fan, you’re gonna love one of them. The blog doesn’t have a great deal of content about Apistos because I don’t keep them. Though I’ve interviewed a couple of folks in the past who have considerable Apisto experience, this one coming up might be one of the most knowledgeable in the hobby. You’ll probably recognize him immediately. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves!

Dr. Wolfgang Staeck interview

Dr. Wolfgang Staeck

Since I began the The Cichlid Stage in 2015, I have had the honor of interviewing people who have made enormous contributions to our understanding of cichlids. Today’s interviewee is no different.

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Calling all eartheater and Apisto enthusiasts

Apistogramma cacatuoides.
Photo from http://www.dwarfcichlid.com/.
Geophagus sp. Tapajos ‘Red head’.
Photo from https://azgardens.com/.

I’m looking for some Apistogramma and eartheater (Geophagus/Satanoperca) experts/enthusiasts to interview. Know anyone? Drop me a line if you do along with their contact information, if you have it. 

In memoriam – Don ‘Z-man’ Zilliox

Don Zilliox.

Just before the awards ceremony at the OCA Extravaganza this past weekend, two members from the Tropical Fish Club of Erie County (TFCEC) made a short presentation.  They presented a $100 check to the Jim Smith Fund in memory of long time TFCEC member, Don Zilliox, who passed away last month.

The cichlid keeping community has lost a great treasure, and I am very saddened. Though I never had the privilege of meeting Don in person, I know he was an outstanding fish keeper and a great guy. How do I know? Keep reading.

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Mike Drawdy interview

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Mike Drawdy

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If you’ve ever been to an ACA convention, you know that there are always myriad species of cichlids at the event with tanks set up in lobbies, the fish rooms, and even attendees’ rooms – some sold by hobbyists and some sold by retailers. This summer’s convention was no exception with an astounding variety of beautiful fish for sale.

Imperial Tropicals, a tropical fish farm and wholesale/retail business located in Lakeland Florida, was well represented at the 2016 convention with a wide selection of cichlids, including Peacocks, Eartheaters, and many others. Mike Drawdy, the manager of Imperial Tropicals, was also in attendance. Mike grew up on the fish farm in Lakeland Florida, where he developed a love of the outdoors and a healthy understanding of the balance of nature. Mike is passionate about fish keeping and breeding, and the fish farm specializes in breeding fish (including numerous cichlids) from around the world, many of which are threatened in the wild. In addition, the farm takes pride in educating people about the threats that tropical fish face in their natural habitat. For more information or to place an online fish order, visit their website. Also, check out their Facebook page.

While at the convention, I talked to Mike and invited him to be interviewed for the blog. He happily agreed, so let’s get started.

The Cichlid Stage: What separates Imperial Tropicals from other tropical fish breeders and sellers? 

We are first and foremost breeders of tropical fish. Our family has been breeding fish since 1970, and we breed the widest variety of fish from all over the world. When you order fish from Imperial Tropicals you are ordering “Direct from the breeders” and we have the quality control that only comes from being breeders.

TCS: Tell the readers about a typical day managing a fish farm.​

Lots of stress and headaches!!!!  We still love what we do and feel very fortunate to be able to work with the fish for a living.  We have 8 full-time employees that help take care of packing orders as well as help maintain and breed the fish.

So, each day we have to be on top of every aspect of fish keeping to keep and maintain healthy fish. Also, we are at the mercy of Mother Nature. Weather is always a concern, including too much rain, or drought, extreme heat or cold, and hurricanes. We are still recovering from hurricane Hermine that caused us a lot of wind damage.

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Some of the fish ponds on the Lakeland, Florida farm. Photo Imperial Tropicals.

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Aerial view of the fish farm. Photo Imperial Tropicals.

TCS: What are the most significant challenges you confront as a fish breeder?

One challenge that one might think of is that we have a hard time finding good brood stock for breeding. We want to begin with the highest quality, and most fish that are available on the wholesale market are of lower quality. We get the best stock from hobbyists or wild caught to start with.

Another issue is when breeding new and rare fish from the wild, it is very hard to replicate the environment that they come from and that makes them much harder to breed. This is especially the case with fish that come from the Amazon region in South America. There are extreme weather conditions that happen when the rainy season starts and that can be hard to replicate in captivity.

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Geophagus winemilleri, sometimes called ‘Stripetail”. Photo Imperial Tropicals.

TCS: What are some of the biggest misconceptions about selling fish online?

Even though people have been shipping direct for many years, it is still new to a lot of people. We have made a lot of breakthroughs in shipping techniques in recent years that allow us to successfully ship fish and have them arrive in great shape. With most people living in areas that only have chain stores, the online ordering gives them access to much healthier and higher quality fish.

TCS: Your website mentions that you now have a focus on hard to breed fish. What are some of these species and what makes them hard to breed?

We are working with a lot different wild fish from South America, like Dicrossus maculatus, Biotoecus opercularis, Taeniacara candidi, Teleocichla centrarchus, Apistogramma sp. and many different L number plecos. These fish need very soft water and very delicate conditions to be able to breed in captivity.

Also, we are now breeding a lot of different fish from Lake Tanganyika in Africa. They are also very touchy and are not as easy to breed as fish that come from Lake Malawi and Lake Victoria.

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Andinoacara pulcher. Photo courtesy of Imperial Tropicals.

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Gold Hypostomus luteus. Photo courtesy of Imperial Tropicals.

TCS: Having experienced over the years the changing fish demands of hobbyists and retailers, as well as import/export and business laws, how do you envision the cichlid hobby 5 years from now?

The hobby in the United States is growing and becoming more popular again, and I see it becoming more advanced in the future, like it is already in Europe and other parts of the world. The Internet contains an endless amount of information and knowledge about fish that use to be only accessible by books. Now fish keepers in the United States are more aware of the proper way to keep these fish and are more aware of the environmental hazards that the fish are facing in their natural habitat. Many fish are facing extinction in the wild and likeminded people are joining together all over the world to help preserve and maintain these fish for future generations. Fish keepers will be the strongest voice in the future to help protect and hopefully reintroduce these fish back into their natural habitat.

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Placidochromis sp. “Phenochilus Tanzania”. Photo courtesy of Imperial Tropicals.

TCS: As a hobbyist myself, I have a particular interest in pike cichlids (Crenicichla species), especially the dwarf varieties. However, pikes seem difficult to find and they aren’t something Imperial Tropicals regularly has. Why do you think they’re difficult to find in the hobby?

We also love Pike cichlids and we do have future plans to work with them. The majority of the wild fish that we bring in are for breeding programs. Most pikes that are sold in the hobby come from the wild and that makes them very seasonal for fisherman to catch and harder to get into the hobby. There are only a few people that are working on breeding them on a commercial level, but hopefully as their popularity grows, we will see more people working with them. Vin Cutty is the leading expert in the world for these fish and hopefully with his help we will learn more about them as well as have more success breeding them. We also have a few people in the United States that are doing a good job bringing in the Pikes from the wild, Like Jeff Rapps from Tangled up in Cichlids. So, they would be a good source for acquiring them.

TCS: Finally, if you could give cichlid hobbyists three pieces of advice about ordering fish online, what would they be?

  1. The first thing is to research the company that you are wanting to order from. All established sellers online will have feedback and reviews. If they are doing a good job, then the reviews will show it.
  2. Make sure you research information about the fish that you are buying. Fish from different parts of the world need different tank set ups and water parameters. So, before you buy make sure you have the proper set up. This will help you become more successful at fish keeping.
  3. Once you have done your research and get ready to place your order, I highly recommend you have a quarantine tank prepared for the new arrivals. Depending on the size of the fish you ordered this can be a simple 10-to-20-gallon tank with a sponge filter and good tank water from your established tank. We do this on all new arrivals even at our facility. When fish are handled and stressed you need to give them time to recover and acclimate before adding them to your main tank.

Interview with Don Zilliox

 Don Zilliox

Not long after beginning in the hobby, I took a determined path toward keeping and breeding cichlids. My interests originally focused on colorful dwarf species of Central and South America. Very quickly I was starving for knowledge, having already consumed nearly every monograph and magazine article I could get my hands on. It was then I began reaching out to the experts.  One of my very first contacts was a kind gentleman by the name of Don Zilliox, otherwise known as Z-Man in the aquarium hobby. I can’t count the number of times I e-mailed him with questions. He responded to every e-mail and was quite patient with me.

A quick Google search for Don will yield a plethora of links to all kinds of information about cichlids. He has written numerous articles covering a variety of dwarf species, including Ctenopoma ansorgii and Crenicichla regani. He’s also written a great piece about keeping and breeding Apistogramma in general. Through decades in the hobby, he has bred more than 100 species. Suffice it to say, he has forgotten more about fish keeping than I’ll probably ever know. I recently got in touch with Don, who has mostly retired from fish keeping. He was gracious enough to answer a few questions for the blog.

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